St Andrew Council Meeting 11/10/10 Minutes Draft

 

President Bernie Orris asked Pastor to open the meeting with prayer.

 

A quorum being present, Bernie opened the meeting at 6:55pm. Present: Bernie Orris, Pastor Rust, Gail Pethia, Bob Morrissey, Jeff French, Lauren Hudgins, Sarah Hall, Craig Schadewald, Ollie Beall, Egon Lippert, Eleanor Lockhart, Barbara Riegel, Ed Blakelock, Karen Ellenberger. Visitors: Mike Corriher, Bonnie Roach

 

*Devotions were presented by Gail Pethia.

 

Special Business: Mike Corriher- The “committee wanting to leave the ELCA”, after getting the council recommendations about a bi-partisan committee, decided to petition church members on their own. They decided that if a “committee wanting to stay in the ELCA” was to be formed, that would need to be done by someone else, not their group.

 The petition stated:

1.      Our request is to bring before the congregation a vote to leave the ELCA. The below is the process and timeline we want to proceed with.

  a. Form a committee of like minded members to research the options we want to pursue.

 b. Present this information at a scheduled congregational meeting. If council wants to have any other committees present to present reasons to stay in ELCA, we welcome the opportunity for them to present their view at said meeting.

 

2.   We request that council include such request listed above as a motion in the minutes of the November council meeting.

 

3. Listed below is a tentative timeline.

  a. February-schedule a congregational meeting to present information our committee has researched to all the members of the congregation.

  b. March- schedule a congregational meeting to take a vote to leave the ELCA.

  c. June- schedule a second congregational meeting for the 2nd vote to leave per our church constitution.

 

The petition was signed by Johnnie Orris and Mike Corriher, and had 58 signatures attached.

 

Discussion & questions ensued. Pastor stated that these procedures should be carried out in a calm, peaceful manner. Motion was made by Egon Lippert, 2nd by Bob Morrissey, to allow the “Leave the ELCA” committee to continue their research, along with a “Stay in the ELCA” committee organized by council. There will be 2 congregational meetings in February, for education of church members. Both committees will status with council each month, beginning in January, to keep council informed. The meeting to hold the first vote to leave the ELCA will be held on March 20th. Motion carried with one abstention.

 

Pastor Rust- stated he is a conservative pastor, as he has made well known, but he is not ready (for his family and himself) to leave the ELCA at this time. He does not agree with the recent decision by the ELCA on the sexuality issue, but feels that most of the things the ELCA does are good.

 

Bernie- stated that questions that church members may have need to be vocalized to give to both committees to research.

 

Pastor- people need to avoid being small, petty, or conflicting- his goal is to keep the church together as a whole as much as possible. His view is that the church should stay in the ELCA.

 

Lauren- thought the Faith Statement meant we were opposing the homosexuality issue; if we aren’t preaching the teaching of homosexuality- why leave the ELCA?

 

Bonnie Roach- states some ELCA groups don’t believe in the Virgin Birth or the Resurrection- they are leaning towards Gnosticism.

 

Bernie- one of the reasons we need this vote is for the benevolence we give to the ELCA.

 

Pastor- In life we have to make hard decisions. We need to resolve how this congregation feels. We need to conduct ourselves as Christ-like as we can. Both sides need to accept that differing viewpoints are ok. He hopes this does not become a negative chapter in St Andrew’s life.

 

Bob Morrissey read a letter from a member who stated he wanted to know what our church’s vote would be before he pledged. (per Ollie- the member did pledge).

*Minutes- Motion to accept minutes from the October 13th meeting was made by Ollie, 2nd by Egon. Motion Carried. (Later in meeting Pastor asked that a correction be made as to the payment for the Large Print Hymnals- These were paid out of Saturday Worship funds, not SOD)

 

*Treasurer’s Report- Ed Blakelock- Operating Funds MTD $36,673.65 YTD 332,534.136

Restricted Funds MTD 4042.02 YTD 60,66.68  Receipts: MTD 40715.67  YTD 392,600.81

Mortgage Balance beginning: 675,543.52  Regular paymt 3585.11, addt’l payment 1600.00 End balance 670,358.41

 

*Evangelism- Eleanor- no report

 

*Finance- Ollie- see report. Question by Barbara R. has the Stephen Ministry budgeted money been moved out of Social Ministry yet? (this will be done)

Auditor- Ed sent a letter to Jeff Hale along with the ELCA audit guidelines. Jeff will send back an engagement letter. Ollie will speak with Larry Matthews, Chuck Shaw on being on the audit committee, to receive the audit from the external auditor. Bernie- Benevolence payment for 2011 will be 10%. Other discussion about the 2011 proposed budget ensued. Motion to approve the 2011 budget as amended, to present to the congregation for vote in Dec, was made by Gail Pethia, 2nd by Sarah Hall. Motion carried.

 

*Confirmed membership applications- per Pastor: Brian & Laurie Franco & children, Al and Margie Serpie.

Motion to accept was made by Bob Morrissey, 2nd by Gail Pethia. Motion carried.

Nominees for council are: Jeff Ogonowski, Glenn Kaijala, Barbara Barden, and Paul Miottke (2nd term) Motion to accept these nominees to take to Dec Congregation meeting made by Pastor, 2nd by Ollie. Motion carried.

 

Pastor spoke of hospitalized members- Wade Roach, Frank Hebscher (now home), and Phil Geib.  Funeral for Martha Kaiser is Sunday at 2pm, Baptism of Hunter Edmundson at 10:45 service.

 

*Youth- Craig- continuing monthly youth gatherings will share a Thanksgiving meal.

            Bernie- on Saturday 12/18, need youth to help put up the Christmas tree at 4pm.

 

*Personnel- Egon- Constitution update is going to Synod for review on 12/3 & 4.

 

*Stewardship- Bob- see report

 

*Christian Education- Sarah- Daryl Anderson has cleaned up the Sunday School office computer access. There will be a Children’s Christmas program on Sat 12/18 at the 6:30 service.

 

*Fellowship- Lauren- For the December 5th congregational meeting, after the 10:45 service, sub sandwiches will be served.

 

*Social Ministry- Barbara- Walter Reed and team will be working with the Salvation Army from Dec 10th – 20th.

 

We will be participating on 2/10/11 for the souper bowl to support RCS.

 

*Memorial Committee- Jeff French- 26 thank you’s were sent in October (24- debt reduction, 1 Micah Bkpk, 1 Stain Glass). The Memorial plaques were hung back up by Swartout & Weeks.  French & Weeks spoke to the LMIM at their Sat breakfast about the wish list for playground equipment (table, benches, trash can)

 

*Worship & Music- Gail- no report

 

*New Business- Bernie- Lifeline Medical Screening will host a screening again in Jan 2011 at St Andrew.

 

Announcements: Final budget will be sent to Terry on 11/12. The Dec 5th congregational Budget mtg will be after the 10:45 Service. December council meeting (with the new council members) will be on Thursday 12/9 at 7pm. Officers will be elected. (Council will now be held on 2nd Thurs of month)

 

Annual Committee Reports need to get to Terry by 12/9. Please keep report to minimum as possible.

 

Motion to adjourn was made by Bob Morrissey, 2nd by Sarah Hall at 8:50pm. The meeting was closed with The Lord’s Prayer.

 

Respectfully submitted,

Karen Ellenberger, Secretary